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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 31, 2011 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD/VU/Fugs Stanley Theater

Legendary gig in my book.
There are a couple reviews of the Velvets' set. It's mentioned that Merry Melodies cartoons were showing while the Velvets played.
"Such a collection of freaks could hardly lead anywhere but up. The Velvet Underground (preceded by Paul Krassner, who got a lot of snickers but really wasn't necessary) opened up the festivities with Heroin, one of their religious songs."
They also played What Goes On and closed with a long Sister Ray. The newspaper reviewer called them the best group of the evening... It's interesting that they opened the show, perhaps indicating that at that point they were even more obscure than the Dead!
For the Dead it was just another stop on their winter tour (they'd been in St Louis on Feb 6 and would be in Baltimore on Feb 9), but it was the only show the Velvets played that month. I doubt the Dead did any hanging out with the Velvets, but they probably had some fun with the Fugs.

This was one of the dates on the tour when there were early & late shows, meaning each band played twice.
It's also one of the relatively few dates for which the other bands w/ the Dead are known. In Chicago the Grassroots had opened; in Baltimore the Dead played with the Chambers Brothers; and of course they were paired with Janis in NY. In St Louis they opened for Iron Butterfly! My guess is the Pittsburgh cobilling had a similar rationale - 'the Dead are some loud & heavy drug-rock band, let's find a similar band.' Not sure how much say the Dead had in choosing the other bands they played with.

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2011-08-31 17:45:23

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Aug 31, 2011 12:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD/VU/Fugs Stanley Theater

I read an account of that show LIA,that said Lou spent a good amount of time smoking pot with either some of the guys in the band or the crew.Naturally I think he had some negative things to say.I wish I could remember where I read it,it might have the White Light/White Heat book.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 31, 2011 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD/VU/Fugs Stanley Theater

I don't remember seeing that, but some pot-sharing seems likely! (Or perhaps nitrous-sharing as well.)
I don't think Sterling Morrison would've given the Dead the time of day....as for Cale, I'd like to know what he thought, as the Dead on Anthem were perhaps the closest to his musical sensibility. Avant-gardists TC and Cale actually had a fair amount in common; and ending a show with long bouts of feedback was also right up the Velvets' alley. Not that they seemed to notice or care.
The Velvets of course already had a very low opinion of San Francisco bands from their previous visits, and after playing a couple shows with the Dead, it appears to have sunk even lower....

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Poster: adks12020 Date: Sep 1, 2011 6:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD/VU/Fugs Stanley Theater

As a music fan I like like and respect The Velvet Underground on the musical front but from what I gather there were smug pricks (not unlike members of the NYC art community now). I'm not surprised that they had a low opinion of San Francisco bands. The mentality was completely different. They weren't cool enough for them...in order to be cool enough for the Velvets at that time you had to be bisexual, love heroin (Jerry obviously would end up qualifying on that account) and talk down to everyone because you were, of course, the most intelligent person in the room...in your own opinion....granted this is all just based on reading books and watching movies since my parents were sophmores in college in 1969 and I wasn't conceived until 1981.

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Poster: matchstickstatue Date: Aug 31, 2011 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD/VU/Fugs Stanley Theater

I guess it's the fact that three of my fave 60s bands are on the same bill that made me think there might have been a special connection. But, it's true, random, brilliant juxtapositions of bands did dominate the era, unlike the compartmentalized scenes of today. Just looking at the Fillmore East listings makes the mind reel. Imagine seeing Moby Grape, The Fugs and Gary Burton (June 1968), or Joe Cocker, Fleetwood Mac and King Crimson (Nov, 1969)! Ah, to have a time machine and tickets:

http://theblackswansociety.com/Fillmore_East_Concerts.php

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Poster: Jim F Date: Aug 31, 2011 11:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD/VU/Fugs Stanley Theater

I was gonna say some stuff in this thread, but when I thought about it, the only thing I can really say is that I once saw Steve Miller on a bill with Pat Benatar. Not sure what I was thinking when I went to that one. We were young, tickets probably free. Had a friend get arrested. Normally if you get arrested at a show, missing the show is just salt in the wound. In his case, missing the show probably worked in his favor.